You are more than a person to them, you are the failure they are afraid of. You might take them down. One elder is all it takes to raise his hand at the elder's meeting to say, "I've been working with brother Doubtful". The base has been covered, love shown, case closed.
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Observations From an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Searching for the Lost Sheep
by doubtfull1799 in"what man among you with 100 sheep, on losing one of them, will not leave the 99 behind in the wilderness and go after the lost one until he finds it?
" - luke 15:4. disclaimer: by posting the following observations i am not complaining.
i am happy to be left alone.
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Ranting
by FedUpJW inplease excuse me for long-winded ranting.
i know, as do most of us here that "love" is not something that the jdub's are known for except in their deluded, feeble minds.. i can handle their hypocrisy when it is directed at me, but when it is aimed at family who for decades have genuinely been the type of jw that the watchtower presents to the public, and when it is motivated by pure hate, then i get pissed!.
my mother was dunked in the 1940's and my father in the 1950's.
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It is not love that unites them all, its the need to trample on anyone defective in the race for life they claim to be running.
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11. How can we show our support for the Messianic King? (From book study last night)
by NikL inthe study was on how wt has refined itself over the years by ceasing celebrations of christmas etc.. paragraph 11.
11 what a fine example those faithful bible students set for us!
reflecting on their example, we do well to ask ourselves: ‘how do i view the direction we receive from headquarters?
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We can show our support by remaining ignorant and blindly following corporate officers with bad suits.
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Aren't you a bit amazed that the WTS/JWS is still around ?
by Finkelstein ini know i am, to me its a bit of a peculiar anomaly that the wts is still around and functioning in reflection of its decades and now complete century that the wts has been bullshitting to people .
organizations like the church of god have shrunk dramatically from its heyday of the 1980's, this too was another organization that spread and grew by publishing its own magazine proclaiming a armageddon soon doctrine and its main publication was called " the truth " .
i'm guessing some of this has to do with the fact that people who get lured into this cult aren't aware of its past, its doctrines, the people who started it and so forth.
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Its all about "new light" and "imperfect" perfection. You buy into that and its full speed ahead.
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Reasoned With A JW Yesterday
by pale.emperor inhad a great chat with a jw on my door yesterday.
girl 1: .... i dont think you would.
me: ________, and say hi to my uncle ________ for me.. girl 1: i will.
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It's so unusual it sounds like a script for a convention drama. Call me a jerk but it doesn't ring true. Would be nice though. If true, good on you. If not, nice prose.
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Was looking at my childhood book "From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained" I found something interesting.
by Still Totally ADD ini was showing a friend of mine what kind of books my parents allowed me to read when i was very young.
no children books that was age related but the so called orange paradise book was my only children book i had.
she was taken back on how violent it was and showing little kids being killed by god was just unspeakable.
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Hey Smiddy, in case you think I am imagining things, namely 2 of them, please observe. I rest my case. I wasn't approving of the depiction of JW madness. I was just surprised that my long held perception of the artwork was so faulty. Clearly that is not a "little girl" and her doll.
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Was looking at my childhood book "From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained" I found something interesting.
by Still Totally ADD ini was showing a friend of mine what kind of books my parents allowed me to read when i was very young.
no children books that was age related but the so called orange paradise book was my only children book i had.
she was taken back on how violent it was and showing little kids being killed by god was just unspeakable.
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Upon closer inspection I see we are wrong. That is not a little girl with a doll! Notice how it is a matter of perspective. That is another girl/woman down below her. She is not holding the hand of the girl/ supposed dolly, below. Notice also how the "little girl" has breasts. I fear we are all mistaken.
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Best statement a householder made to get you to leave them alone.
by Esse quam videri inknocked on a door on a saturday morning.
a window opened on the floor above me.
a grizzled old man stuck his head out and said, " we're all heathens here!
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"Consider me warned", then door closed. It was epic!
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No more official visits to disfellowshipped & disassociated ones
by AverageJoe1 innew letter today (please visit avoidjw.org for a copy of the official letter and yes, i also noticed they got the date wrong!).
february 28, 2017. to all bodies of elders.
re: visiting disfellowshipped or disassociated individuals.
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How easily they admit failure by "adjustment" in policy. They are doubtless running into informed ex members who are good people and call them out on their BS.
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Assembly Dramas:They were so bad.... but.... you waited for them to break away from the monotony!
by RULES & REGULATIONS in.
you do remember the four day assemblies... sitting outdoors being fried in the sweltering heat,getting heat stroke in the middle of july in an outdoor baseball stadium.sitting outdoors from 9:45 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. was so much fun while you wore a suit,long sleeve shirt and a tie while your brain fried.
mom's who had children to take care of,lug strollers,feed all the kids,take them for bathroom breaks and try to not faint from the heat.. the sound and audio was always breaking and barely audible from the wind,airplanes flying over and (if you attended the cicero,illinois circuit )you would smell horse manure from the horse stables next door.. you know that you are a jehovah's witness.... when the only excitement waiting for the drama... where brothers and sisters dress up in ancient cloths,fake beards,fake rocks and fake soldier uniforms and wave their hands incessantly to pretend that they are acting out a drama.the excitement was unbearable!.
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Dramas you ask?
Who can forget sitting way up in Candlestick park covered in blankets, wool caps as darkness came on. We kids fought over the binoculars to see the exaggerated movements as the spies lifted their arms to point left then right while saying "it was this way, then that!". It was comical and we mocked them for weeks to our parents. They might ask, "where is the car?, we'd answer; "it was this way, then that!" while lifting our arms out in the air to the left and then right. my god we laughed so hard. The floodlights on center field at night were cool to a 9 year old me.